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I know nothing about crocodiles or lions?! Ok, Mr. tigers will annihilate any crocodile. I'm not 15, i'm actually 16 turning 17 soon. Ok, but the crocodiles don't ever have to actually fight an angry male lion over a kill like c'mon. Lions gang up on animals and once they lose interest in something or find it useless they leave. A determined male lion would've fought off the crocodile with everything it has especially if it's threatening its pride. Listen, crocodiles are built for water what's so hard to understand about it? Lions are apex predators built for speed and power and are able to take down animals much larger than themselves. I already said a croc will win in water but to say it will win on land...no words. Lions will avoid crocodiles to avoid serious injury? That's not that case with lions for i've seen lions fight off other lions and hyenas when outnumbered. Lions do not fear crocodiles unless they are crossing a river, they will know that the crocs are out there and will ambush them. Ok, first of all the pride just wanted to scare and intimidate the crocodile so it can go back into the water. The pride did NOT look at the crocodile as if it was food but as an intruder and i think the male lion did its job as attacking the crocodile at first glance. Listen, there's a video of a male lion scaring off a crocodile however, the crocodile's size is not seen. Crocodiles are determined predators and lions can't handle predators that are persistent. But if it came to an actual fight and to the death scenario, the lion will win on LAND.
Like i stated again, you failed at showing me a mad african lion. That lion wasn't even mad yet he literally lifted the croc off the ground in his jaws. That video actually helped proved my point more than it did for your point. Lions and tigers are practically the same animal and they both can do most of each other feats. Tigers deal with Mugger crocodiles which are slightly smaller and not as aggressive as nile crocodiles. Lol, you called me a noob! Oh my gosh, the stupidity is everywhere! A lion will be able to outmaneuver a crocodile on land easily if it wanted to. A lion can also easily pin the crocodile under its weight and bite the base of the skull. Crocodiles aren't agile enough to protect its vulnerable skull yet a lion can keep its vulnerable spine protected against the crocodile. See your taking lion's fear to a whole new level my friend. This is a fight to the death scenario so tell me why a lion would still be "afraid" of the crocodile? Your clueless, absolutely clueless. I am referring to jaguars,tigers, and leopards, to show you that other members of the cat family don't have trouble killing crocodilians so tell me why a lion would? Your being totally biased. Lions are the second largest cats in the world and posses much power too.
Interesting account, do you know how the crocodile killed the lion? Was it by ambush? Interesting either way and thanks for the account.Dude, stop calling me a noob. I don't think it's even possible to be a noob when it comes down to animals. I said that lions and tigers are identical in the anatomy, bro LISTEN! Yes, but the design of their bodies are very similar and that's quite obvious. Oh, tigers don't give a sh*it about crocodiles in water? A 8yr old male tiger was killing by a crocodile and i'll send a link later. Stop thinking tigers are boss, it's quite annoying. If you represent tigers on the lion vs tiger forums then i'm ashamed to be on your side of the debate. Tigers can't afford to give up a meals while lions can. Tigers are solitary and because of this every meal is cherished greatly and will defend it.Interesting account, do you know how the crocodile killed the lion? Was it by ambush? Interesting either way and thanks for the account.Dude, stop calling me a noob. I don't think it's even possible to be a noob when it comes down to animals. I said that lions and tigers are identical in the anatomy, bro LISTEN! Yes, but the design of their bodies are very similar and that's quite obvious. Oh, tigers don't give a sh*it about crocodiles in water? A 8yr old male tiger was killing by a crocodile and i'll send a link later. Stop thinking tigers are boss, it's quite annoying. If you represent tigers on the lion vs tiger forums then i'm ashamed to be on your side of the debate. Tigers can't afford to give up a meals while lions can. Tigers are solitary and because of this every meal is cherished greatly and will defend it.
Oh, tigers don't give a sh*it about crocodiles in water? A 8yr old male tiger was killing by a crocodile and i'll send a link later. Stop thinking tigers are boss, it's quite annoying.
If you represent tigers on the lion vs tiger forums then i'm ashamed to be on your side of the debate.
Mon, Jun 24, 2013 5:37 PM
malikc6 wrote:I never said with ease. Rhinos, Hippos, and elephants HAVE been overwhelmed and killed by lions before. Those were exceptions and are rare examples. I am simply saying IF THEY WERE TO FIGHT. Like you said. The lion will likely back down. I stated this twice. I'm simply talking about fighting. Not what actually will happen. Its like the leopard vs hyena debate. The leopard might win more but chances are, the leopard would flee up a tree. You get what I'm saying.
I totally understand what you are saying. As for lions killing pachyderms, this has been discussed in the lion vs tiger section. Lions do not kill fully adult elephants, bull rhinos, nor bull hippos. Given a large enough number of lions, yes they could likely kill the monstrous crocodile, with numerous lions being killed as well. So yes, a pride of lions could ( theoretically ) kill the 1,000+ pound crocodile. I look at it like this. If a coalition of lions attack a crocodile and kill it, but with the loss of two lions, then as a species, the crocodile is the winner. Outcome = 1 dead crocodile and 2 dead lions. The lions appear to comprehend this. A meal, even one that could last for several days, is simply not worth so great a risk. With a monstrous crocodile like Gustave, I'm not at all sure that an entire pride of lions could kill him, even if they were insane enough to attempt it.
Mon, Jun 24, 2013 6:16 PM
BrotherBear wrote:So then, please explain why a pride of 5 lions surrendered their kill to one crocodile.
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Mon, Jun 24, 2013 9:11 PM
GradGuy wrote:Why is it that people always become so delusional when it comes to inter-specific behavior involving crocodiles? It's a well-established fact that crocodiles prey on male and female, adult lions. You can even ask some of the people at the following crocodile park in Spain, as I have: http://www.cocodrilospark.com. People treat the lion vs Nile Crocodile debate as they do the Saltwater crocodile vs Bengal Tiger debate, specifically with Machli and the "14-fooot" crocodile; that crocodile was never measured by any means, and yet everyone is convinced by the words of that Indian general biologist (I forgot his name). Furthermore, people illogically take the words of a generalist than one of the best crocodile specialists around Adam Britton. I would never take anything away from the tiger, bear, or any other predator. Why can't people accept the fact that crocodile's are ranked among the best predators?
Tue, Jun 25, 2013 1:33 AM
Let's just say I am the forum god of AVA and I run this %@+@, no one beefs with me on these forums and those that have, well it didn't work out too well for them. LMAO
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Lions are truly the king of beasts, in both action, and looks!
Tue, Jun 25, 2013 3:17 PM
pckts wrote:^ Just another example of crocs being outmatched by lions.
Tue, Jun 25, 2013 3:21 PM
the bold champ wrote:If the lion can actually pierce the skin of a large croc....then there is nothing the croc could do to stop the lion from killing it. I`ve seen humans jump on a large croc and keep it immobile. I`m certain it`ll also work with a 350-550 lb animal.
About 2km from the Mighty Zambezi, 'A Crocodile' was here on the lion kill. The Crocodile had waged war against these cats and lions couldn't let it their rare prey(Giraffe), there was a lot growling and grunting as lions tried to defend their prey, but the crocodile bulldozed its way towards the kill, using all its weapons- tail, biting with its deadly jaws. Unwillingly lions gave-up and the victorious crocodile who at times have no match to lions when out of water enjoyed the hard fought meal. Lions never returned back and carcass was finished off by thousands of vultures after the Crocodile left.
Tue, Jun 25, 2013 3:58 PM
BrotherBear wrote:pckts wrote:^ Just another example of crocs being outmatched by lions.I counted at least 4 lions, though there could have been more. They were unable to do any harm to one crocodile. The crocodile returned into his element, the water. The lions remained on their element, the dry land.
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