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Wed, Aug 28, 2013 4:21 AM
The gayal or mithun
This cow-like animal is a gayal or mithun. It is a domestic animal in South and Southeast Asia.
This particular animal would be called a mithun because it has more cattle-like features than the ones called gayals.
What exactly is mithun or gayal?
That’s actually a pretty good question.
The scientific name for this animal is Bos frontalis. It is in the same genus as the domestic cattle species, and like other members of this genus, it can hybridize with domestic cattle. Apparently, the hybrids between domestic cattle and gayal/mithun are more often fertile.
There are three hypotheses for what the gayal/mithun actually is.
It’s a hybrid between the gaur (Bos gaurus) and the domestic cow.
It’s a domesticated gaur.
It’s a domesticated animal that is closely related to the gaur that has since gone extinct.
It’s a domesticated animal whose wild ancestor has gone extinct, and there has been a lot of crossbreeding between gayal/mithun with the wild gaur and domestic cattle.
Some authorities think of the gayal and mithun as different entities.
One would think that the literature would have cleared this up by now, but the literature is virtually everywhere.
Different sources claim that gayal and mithun are different animals or that gayal are directly derived from gaur, while mithun are gayal/cattle hybrids.
Such confusion is probably why we still hold this animal to be Bos frontalis.
The latest research holds that the gayal and mithun are the same thing– and they are domesticated gaur. However, these domesticated gaur have heavily crossbred with both indicus and taurine cattle in some areas.
More research needs to be performed in order to tease out exactly how much of which species contributed to its genome.
It is correct to say that this animal is a gaur/cow hybrid, but it may be that not all animals have cattle ancestry. In fact, I’d be surprised if all of them did.
If these animals are found to be predominantly gaur in ancestry, one would be more willing to question the validity of Bos frontalis as a legitimate species. The proper name for this animal would be Bos gaurus frontalis.
But because virtually every study on these animals involves mitotchondrial DNA. we really can’t determine the exact contribution of the domestic cattle species and the gaur in the the gayal or mithun.
So it’s a mystery animal.
I lean toward it being a domestic gaur with some domestic cattle blood.
But we need a larger n study that includes gaur, various types of domestic cattle, and mithun and gayal from different countries in South and Southeast Asia.
It also needs to be a study that looks at nuclear DNA– just because mitochondrial DNA studies can be quite inaccurate.http://retrieverman.net/2011/12/25/the-gayal-or-mithun/
The gayal or mithunhttp://e-fotek.pl/images/92250210739133614789.jpg
Some photos from Mysore Zoo (officially the Sri Chamarajendra Zoological Gardens)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Indian_gaur_at_Mysore_zoo.jpghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/smerikal/7634993988/http://www.flickr.com/photos/anaranar/6856878683/
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Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:37 AM
Warsaw wrote:rolfcopter wrote:here's more Gayals or Mithuns below
Gaur_bull_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpghttp://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/wp-content/blogs.dir/471/files/2012/04/i-3dd153b3cdf320f6f0071926ee91284a-Gaur_bull_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpgGaur_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpghttp://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/wp-content/blogs.dir/471/files/2012/04/i-eb1c132f96756c74d9a4d9911dca6957-Gaur_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpgBseladang.jpgBseladang = Bos seladangThe Malayan gaur is called seladanghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1PyX6i_Bh-0/TW_rorMwr7I/AAAAAAAAEbI/nvaez4z3ER0/s1600/Bos%2Bgaurus%2Bo%2Bseladang.jpggaur-indian-bison.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2pehp_hDSGs/UcMlQBItkgI/AAAAAAAABrY/b_IwoLIkRpc/s1600/gaur-indian-bison.jpgGaur_at_the_Bronx_Zoohttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Gaur_at_the_Bronx_Zoo.jpg
Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:21 AM
Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:47 PM
roflcopters wrote:Warsaw wrote:rolfcopter wrote:here's more Gayals or Mithuns below
Gaur_bull_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpghttp://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/wp-content/blogs.dir/471/files/2012/04/i-3dd153b3cdf320f6f0071926ee91284a-Gaur_bull_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpgGaur_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpghttp://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/wp-content/blogs.dir/471/files/2012/04/i-eb1c132f96756c74d9a4d9911dca6957-Gaur_Markus_Buehler_Berlin_April_2009.jpgBseladang.jpgBseladang = Bos seladangThe Malayan gaur is called seladanghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1PyX6i_Bh-0/TW_rorMwr7I/AAAAAAAAEbI/nvaez4z3ER0/s1600/Bos%2Bgaurus%2Bo%2Bseladang.jpggaur-indian-bison.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2pehp_hDSGs/UcMlQBItkgI/AAAAAAAABrY/b_IwoLIkRpc/s1600/gaur-indian-bison.jpgGaur_at_the_Bronx_Zoohttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Gaur_at_the_Bronx_Zoo.jpgYou clearly have no idea what you're talking about and what exactly are you trying to prove by posting the pics i provided myself LMAO. hold up, are you still trying to save face by going around circles? these are domesticated "Gaurs" from Zoos and they are called "Gayals or Mithuns". I totally get it now, I hurt your ego bad and you're having hard time admitting it. It is what it is though.. now it's time for you to move on and go wank off somewhere else.here a quick demonstration again (look below)Here is a screenshot from Mysore Zoo's website - let's take it step by step now. 1) Notice the scientific name "Bos Frontalis Gaur" in the Mysore Zoo animal registry.2) Scientific name for Wild Gaur is "Bos Gaurus".3) Scientific name for Domestic Gaur is "Bos Frontalis" or Gayal/Mithun.4) NRCM is studying "Bos Frontalis" in Mysore Zoo. link = http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/study-provides-good-news-for-mysore-zoos-gaur-breeding-project/article4645789.ece5) NRCM = National Research Centre on Mithun.rolfcopter wrote:Notice the scientific name "Bos Frontalis Gaur" in the Mysore Zoo animal registry.Well........"Bos Frontalis Gaurus "
Thu, Aug 29, 2013 3:48 AM
Thu, Aug 29, 2013 6:40 AM
prathap wrote:For starters many people have mistaken wild gaurs with domesticated gaurs.Wild gaurs are much larger and taller than the domesticated ones.Ive visited several reserves in Karnataka and Tamilnadu. The most famous of them all is the forest stretch covering 6000sqkm joining three states Tamil Nadu, Kerala and KarnatakaThis is the best place to see wild gaurs.This entire forest range borders all the 3 states and it is divided as followsThe forest entering the Tamil Nadu state is called MudumalaiThe forest entering the Karnataka state is BandipurThe forest in entering Kerala state is TheppakaaduOther than this the forest is also divided into other national parks and state forests like Berambadi state forest, Mukurthi National park etc.So its bascially a single stretch of forest which is divided into several reserves, national parks etc based on three different states.Bordering the Mudumalai and Bandipur reserves there are mountainous hill stations where is our tea estate is located.It takes one hour for me to reach Mudumalai from our estate and 1.5 to Bandipur.The area is a highly forested mountainous terrain, we have to cross 36 hair pin bends with each one being 18 ft to reach Mudumalai.Ive seen wild gaurs, wild elephants, wild boars more than you can imagine.IMO prime healthy wild Indian male gaurs will be 7ft and above the at hump. Actually 7ft is not a big deal for these animals.People under estimate the gaur size by seeing the domestic stock.Look at this wild gaur which entered a village (in Ooty) by mistake near our estate, this bull is easily 7ft tall at the hump.Traditionally, three wild subspecies of Bos gaurus have been recognized : B. g. gaurus described by Smith in 1827 from central India ranging to Nepal and BhutanB. g. readei described by Lydekker in 1903 from the hill forests of Upper Burma as ranging to TenasserimB. g. hubbacki described by Lydekker in 1907 from Pahang as ranging in peninsular Malaysia and probably northward to Tenasserim.The domesticated form of the gaur Bos frontalis is called gayal or mithun
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